{"id":4528,"date":"2024-10-02T13:47:45","date_gmt":"2024-10-02T11:47:45","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/duhovyrok.sk\/qys\/?p=4528"},"modified":"2024-10-02T13:48:05","modified_gmt":"2024-10-02T11:48:05","slug":"spisovatel-marek-torcik-moja-zivotna-skusenost-nie-je-jedinecna-prave-naopak-mnohi-ludia-sa-v-mojom-pribehu-nasli","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/duhovyrok.sk\/qys\/spisovatel-marek-torcik-moja-zivotna-skusenost-nie-je-jedinecna-prave-naopak-mnohi-ludia-sa-v-mojom-pribehu-nasli\/","title":{"rendered":"Spisovate\u013e Marek Tor\u010d\u00edk: Moja \u017eivotn\u00e1 sk\u00fasenos\u0165 nie je jedine\u010dn\u00e1, pr\u00e1ve naopak. Mnoh\u00ed \u013eudia sa v mojom pr\u00edbehu na\u0161li"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Autorka: Krist\u00edna Gyur\u00edkov\u00e1<\/strong> <strong>\/<\/strong> <strong>FOTO: Marta Nov\u00e1kov\u00e1, Barbora Mar\u0161\u00ed\u010dek<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Text sme prv\u00fd raz publikovali v \u010d\u00edsle Leto 2024.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>B\u00e1snik a anglista Marek Tor\u010d\u00edk so svoj\u00edm debutov\u00fdm rom\u00e1nom <\/em>Rozlo\u017e\u00ed\u0161 pam\u011b\u0165<em> z\u00edskal v r\u00e1mci s\u00fa\u0165a\u017ee Magnesia Litera cenu Luxor Litera za pr\u00f3zu 2024. V knihe, ktor\u00e1 kombinuje prvky autobiografie a fikcie, autor rie\u0161i t\u00e9my nespo\u013eahlivosti pam\u00e4ti, ale aj kv\u00edr identity, chudoby \u010di \u0161ikany.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><em>Knihy ako <\/em><\/strong><strong>Rozlo\u017e\u00ed\u0161 pam\u011b\u0165<\/strong><strong><em> na na\u0161om trhu nevznikaj\u00fa \u010dasto. Prekvapil v\u00e1s jej \u00faspech, alebo ste ho \u010dakali?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Ne\u010dakal, dokonca e\u0161te ke\u010f bola kniha v tla\u010di, p\u00edsal som smutn\u00e9 e-maily svojej redaktorke, nech to cel\u00e9 zru\u0161\u00ed, preto\u017ee som s \u0148ou nebol \u00faplne spokojn\u00fd, tak\u017ee ma to sk\u00f4r prekvapilo.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Ale ja som svoj najv\u00e4\u010d\u0161\u00ed kritik a ve\u013emi si never\u00edm. Mysl\u00edm si, \u017ee t\u00e1 chronick\u00e1 sebaned\u00f4vera s\u00favis\u00ed pr\u00e1ve s identitou, s&nbsp;t\u00fdm, \u017ee som kv\u00edr a \u017ee som navy\u0161e z pracuj\u00facej rodiny. Ka\u017edop\u00e1dne m\u00e1m z toho rados\u0165.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><em>Va\u0161u knihu \u010dasto prirovn\u00e1vaj\u00fa k \u00c9douardovi Louisovi, ke\u010f\u017ee v oboch pr\u00edpadoch ide o pr\u00edbehy kv\u00edr \u013eud\u00ed z pracuj\u00facich pomerov. Ale pr\u00e1ve preto si mysl\u00edm, \u017ee tak\u00fdchto pr\u00edbehov mus\u00ed by\u0165 naozaj ve\u013ea a mnoh\u00ed sa v nich n\u00e1jdu.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u00c1no, po vydan\u00ed mi za\u010dali chodi\u0165 spr\u00e1vy od \u010ditate\u013eov a \u013eud\u00ed z m\u00f4jho okolia, ktor\u00ed mali podobn\u00fa sk\u00fasenos\u0165, alebo aj trochu odli\u0161n\u00fa, ale na\u0161li si v mojom pr\u00edbehu sty\u010dn\u00e9 body. Preto si mysl\u00edm, \u017ee to v\u00f4bec nie je jedine\u010dn\u00e1 sk\u00fasenos\u0165, ale pr\u00e1ve naopak, mo\u017eno je a\u017e pr\u00edli\u0161 oby\u010dajn\u00e1.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Liter\u00e1rne \u0161trukt\u00fary v \u010cesku s\u00fa dos\u0165 nepriazniv\u00e9 vo\u010di autorom z marginalizovan\u00e9ho prostredia. Preto ve\u013emi obdivujem to, \u010do rob\u00ed napr\u00edklad vydavate\u013estvo KHER v \u010cesku, ktor\u00e9 vyd\u00e1va r\u00f3mske autorstvo a d\u00e1va mu platformu tam, kde im ju tradi\u010dn\u00e9 vydavate\u013estv\u00e1 nevedia poskytn\u00fa\u0165. Mo\u017eno aj to je d\u00f4vodom, pre\u010do kv\u00edr pr\u00edbehy nie s\u00fa a\u017e tak\u00e9 vidite\u013en\u00e9.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><em>Pre\u010do ste sa v\u00f4bec rozhodli knihu nap\u00edsa\u0165? Bola to ist\u00e1 forma terapie?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Terapia to rozhodne nebola, aj ke\u010f sa na to \u013eudia \u010dasto p\u00fdtaj\u00fa. Ke\u010f\u017ee ten pr\u00edbeh je dos\u0165 bolestiv\u00fd, zv\u00e1dza to k predpokladu, \u017ee som to potreboval zo seba dosta\u0165. Ale ja som paradoxne celkom vyrovnan\u00fd \u010dlovek, podobne ako aj moja skuto\u010dn\u00e1 mama, ktor\u00e1 je \u00faplne in\u00e1 ako t\u00e1 kni\u017en\u00e1.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Sk\u00f4r som bol nahnevan\u00fd, \u017ee sa o niektor\u00fdch veciach nerozpr\u00e1va, alebo sa o nich nerozpr\u00e1va to\u013eko, ako by sa malo. Potreboval som pouk\u00e1za\u0165 na spojitosti, na ktor\u00e9 sa pod\u013ea m\u0148a dostato\u010dne neukazuje, ako napr\u00edklad to, \u017ee homof\u00f3bia a mizog\u00fdnia vych\u00e1dzaj\u00fa z rovnak\u00e9ho podhubia. Pripad\u00e1 mi, \u017ee na toto sa \u010dasto zab\u00fada.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Napr\u00edklad aj v kult\u00fare cisrodov\u00fdch gejov existuje nie\u010do ako internalizovan\u00e1 mizog\u00fdnia a homof\u00f3bia, a v\u0161etko to vych\u00e1dza z predstavy, \u017ee by\u0165 \u017eenou je nie\u010do zl\u00e9, \u017ee to je menej ako by\u0165 chlapom.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Fr\u00e1zy ako \u201enebu\u010f baba\u201c som ako mal\u00fd po\u010d\u00faval ve\u013emi \u010dasto. Pripad\u00e1 mi, \u017ee to je pr\u00e1ve jedna z vec\u00ed, ktor\u00e1 nedoch\u00e1dza mnoh\u00fdm \u013eu\u010fom, \u010do si nie\u010d\u00edm podobn\u00fdm nepre\u0161li. Povedal som si, \u017ee ak m\u00f4\u017eem da\u0165 do knihy nie\u010do, \u010do e\u0161te nezaznelo, je to pr\u00e1ve toto spojenie.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Stret\u00e1va sa s t\u00fdm ka\u017ed\u00fd, a nie je to sk\u00fasenos\u0165 podmienen\u00e1 len rodovo, ale napr\u00edklad aj triedne. Jemnos\u0165 u mu\u017eov je tie\u017e o\u010dak\u00e1van\u00e1 len v tej vy\u0161\u0161ej strednej triede. Mu\u017ei z pracuj\u00facej triedy, alebo teda robotn\u00edci, aj v tom okol\u00ed, kde som sa pohyboval, performuj\u00fa svoju vlastn\u00fa identitu, to, v \u010dom vyrastaj\u00fa, a to je stereotypn\u00e1 mu\u017eskos\u0165.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Mysl\u00edm si, \u017ee to tie\u017e ve\u013emi ovplyv\u0148uje \u017eivotn\u00fa sk\u00fasenos\u0165 \u013eud\u00ed, \u010di u\u017e \u017eien alebo mu\u017eov, ktor\u00ed t\u00fdm potom trpia, preto\u017ee napr\u00edklad nezapadaj\u00fa alebo nevedia prejavi\u0165 svoje em\u00f3cie a potom maj\u00fa probl\u00e9my sami so sebou.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><em>Doteraz ste sa venovali hlavne po\u00e9zii. Pre\u010do ste sa rozhodli t\u00e9my knihy<\/em><\/strong><strong> Rozlo\u017e\u00ed\u0161 pam\u011b\u0165<\/strong><strong><em> spracova\u0165 v prozaickej forme?&nbsp;<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Tieto t\u00e9my som u\u017e trochu na\u010drtol v mojej po\u00e9zii, ale pr\u00f3za je n\u00e1sobne viac \u010d\u00edtan\u00e1. M\u00e1m pocit, ako keby ju \u010ditatelia aj kritici pova\u017eovali za hodnotnej\u0161iu. Niekedy sa na to a\u017e hnev\u00e1m, preto\u017ee m\u00e1m po\u00e9ziu st\u00e1le r\u00e1d a st\u00e1le ju aj p\u00ed\u0161em, ale pr\u00f3ze sa jednoducho dost\u00e1va viac pozornosti.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">D\u00f4le\u017eit\u00e9 pre m\u0148a bolo vedomie, \u017ee pokia\u013e chcem, aby mi niekto rozumel a pochopil, \u010do sa sna\u017e\u00edm poveda\u0165, tak to mus\u00ed by\u0165 pr\u00edstupn\u00e9. A po\u00e9zia je \u010dasto menej zrozumite\u013en\u00e1.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"819\" src=\"https:\/\/duhovyrok.sk\/qys\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/06\/Torcik_Foto_Marta-Novakova-1024x819.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-4608\" srcset=\"https:\/\/duhovyrok.sk\/qys\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/06\/Torcik_Foto_Marta-Novakova-1024x819.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/duhovyrok.sk\/qys\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/06\/Torcik_Foto_Marta-Novakova-700x560.jpg 700w, https:\/\/duhovyrok.sk\/qys\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/06\/Torcik_Foto_Marta-Novakova-1536x1229.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/duhovyrok.sk\/qys\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/06\/Torcik_Foto_Marta-Novakova-2048x1638.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">SONY DSC<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><em>Po\u00e9zia nech\u00e1va ve\u013ea priestoru na interpret\u00e1ciu \u010ditate\u013ea, zatia\u013e \u010do pr\u00f3za je viac-menej priamo\u010diara.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Je to tak. Z\u00e1rove\u0148 ide aj o to, ak\u00fa m\u00e1me schopnos\u0165 vn\u00edma\u0165 pr\u00edbehy a to, na \u010do vlastne sl\u00fa\u017eia. Je to odovzd\u00e1vanie vedomost\u00ed, m\u00fadrost\u00ed \u010di varovan\u00ed. Ke\u010f rozpr\u00e1vame de\u0165om rozpr\u00e1vky alebo m\u00fdty, chceme im odovzda\u0165 nejak\u00fa inform\u00e1ciu, nie\u010do, na \u010do u\u017e pri\u0161li t\u00ed pred nami a my nechceme, aby sa to opakovalo znovu. To je jedna z funkci\u00ed pr\u00edbehov. A to pr\u00e1ve po\u00e9zia nie je schopn\u00e1 v dne\u0161nej podobe ve\u013emi robi\u0165.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Ja to v\u017edy prirovn\u00e1vam ku fotografii a filmu \u2013 pr\u00f3za je sk\u00f4r film a po\u00e9zia je fotografia, ako keby to boli dve in\u00e9 m\u00e9di\u00e1. Pre m\u0148a, samozrejme, bolo d\u00f4le\u017eit\u00e9, aby tam bolo nie\u010do z po\u00e9zie, ako napr\u00edklad pr\u00e1ve schopnos\u0165 zachyti\u0165 em\u00f3ciu alebo nejak\u00fd moment, ale z\u00e1rove\u0148 som chcel, nech je to celistvej\u0161ie, aby to bolo nie\u010do viac ako len \u00faseky.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><em>Na jazyku knihy je to aj c\u00edti\u0165, je naozaj poetick\u00fd a pekne plynie.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">To som r\u00e1d. Pre m\u0148a bolo d\u00f4le\u017eit\u00e9, aby to malo rytmus. To je princ\u00edp, ktor\u00fd ma na po\u00e9zii bav\u00ed a ktor\u00fd je pod\u013ea m\u0148a nutn\u00e9 pren\u00e1\u0161a\u0165 do pr\u00f3zy \u2013 nespolieha\u0165 sa len na dej a tradi\u010dn\u00e9 \u0161trukt\u00fary.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Tak ako \u017eivot \u010dasto nem\u00e1 z\u00e1pletku ani rozuzlenie, nem\u00e1 ich ani po\u00e9zia. Funguje sk\u00f4r na mot\u00edvoch, ktor\u00e9 sa opakuj\u00fa \u2013 tak ako aj \u017eivot. V&nbsp;rom\u00e1ne, ako je m\u00f4j, je opakovanie r\u00f4znych mot\u00edvov d\u00f4le\u017eitej\u0161ie ne\u017e nejak\u00e9 vyvrcholenie, a to je nie\u010do, \u010do je bli\u017e\u0161ie sk\u00f4r po\u00e9zii ne\u017e pr\u00f3ze. Nie je to ni\u010d inovat\u00edvne, deje sa to u\u017e od Virginie Woolf.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><em>Bolo pre v\u00e1s \u0165a\u017ek\u00e9 prejs\u0165 od po\u00e9zie k&nbsp;pr\u00f3ze, alebo to \u0161lo prirodzene, ke\u010f\u017ee i\u0161lo o p\u00edsanie z vlastnej sk\u00fasenosti?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">P\u00ed\u0161em pr\u00f3zu ove\u013ea dlh\u0161ie ne\u017e b\u00e1sne. Moje prv\u00e9 pokusy vznikali e\u0161te niekedy na strednej \u0161kole, na za\u010diatku to bola v\u017edy pr\u00f3za a b\u00e1sne sa k tomu pridali a\u017e nesk\u00f4r.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Na vysokej \u0161kole som nejako nemal \u010das venova\u0165 sa dlh\u0161\u00edm \u00fatvarom, venoval som sa \u0161t\u00fadiu a po\u00e9zii, preto\u017ee na to som \u010das mal. Je to \u013eah\u0161ie, ke\u010f\u017ee \u010dlovek od toho m\u00f4\u017ee od\u00eds\u0165. Mysl\u00edm si, \u017ee to je jeden z d\u00f4vodov, pre\u010do teraz vznik\u00e1 to\u013eko poviedkov\u00fdch kn\u00edh, \u013eudia jednoducho nemaj\u00fa \u010das sadn\u00fa\u0165 si a nap\u00edsa\u0165 rom\u00e1n.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><em>Na to, aby sa p\u00edsaniu \u010dlovek vedel venova\u0165 naplno, v\u0161ak potrebujete okrem \u010dasu aj peniaze.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u00c1no, a to s\u00favis\u00ed jedno s druh\u00fdm. Ten najv\u00e4\u010d\u0161\u00ed modernistick\u00fd rozkvet v literat\u00fare bol dan\u00fd hlavne t\u00fdm, \u017ee za\u010dala p\u00edsa\u0165 stredn\u00e1 trieda, v\u0161etci t\u00ed \u013eudia, ktor\u00ed si mohli dovoli\u0165 nepracova\u0165. Aj spom\u00ednan\u00e1 Virginia Woolf mala z\u00e1zemie, bola z privilegovanej rodiny a mohla si dovoli\u0165 p\u00edsa\u0165. Ale dnes sme v poz\u00edcii, kedy sa t\u00fdm u\u017eiv\u00ed len h\u0155stka \u013eud\u00ed, a mo\u017eno pr\u00e1ve preto vznik\u00e1 to\u013eko krat\u0161\u00edch \u00fatvarov.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Aj pre m\u0148a to bolo ve\u013ek\u00e9 sebaobetovanie. Teda sebaobetovanie znie dramatickej\u0161ie, ako to v skuto\u010dnosti bolo, ale jednoducho pr\u00eds\u0165 z pr\u00e1ce, sadn\u00fa\u0165 si k po\u010d\u00edta\u010du a p\u00edsa\u0165 do tretej r\u00e1no je nie\u010do, \u010do neviem, \u010di dok\u00e1\u017eem e\u0161te niekedy zopakova\u0165, preto\u017ee ma to naozaj vy\u010derpalo.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><em>Vo svojom rom\u00e1ne opakovane hovor\u00edte o tom, ak\u00e1 je pam\u00e4\u0165 nespo\u013eahliv\u00e1. Sna\u017eili ste sa tie udalosti v \u0148om zachyti\u0165 tak, ako ste si ich v skuto\u010dnosti pam\u00e4tali, alebo ste ich prisp\u00f4sobovali tomu odkazu, ktor\u00fd ste chceli odovzda\u0165 \u010ditate\u013eom?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">M\u0148a pr\u00e1ve\u017ee ani nezauj\u00edmalo to, ako sa to v skuto\u010dnosti stalo. Aj pri snahe by\u0165 objekt\u00edvny vznikaj\u00fa r\u00f4zne skreslenia, preto\u017ee sme len \u013eudia a v\u0161etci m\u00e1me svoje limity vn\u00edmania. Okrem toho sa na 500 str\u00e1n knihy, alebo teda v mojom pr\u00edpade 200 str\u00e1n, v\u0161etko jednoducho nevojde.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">U\u017e len to, ak\u00fd vol\u00edm jazyk, m\u00e1 svoj limit. Pripadalo mi sk\u00f4r zauj\u00edmav\u00e9 sna\u017ei\u0165 sa tieto limity op\u00edsa\u0165, vyslovi\u0165 a spr\u00edtomni\u0165 vedomie, \u017ee v\u0161etko sa to\u010d\u00ed sk\u00f4r okolo subjekt\u00edvnych vnemov, dosta\u0165 ich na papier. Je to ve\u013emi univerz\u00e1lna sk\u00fasenos\u0165, za\u017e\u00edvame to pri ka\u017edodenn\u00fdch situ\u00e1ci\u00e1ch, s\u00fa o tom partnersk\u00e9 h\u00e1dky alebo nezhody medzi rodi\u010dmi a de\u0165mi. Aj ja si napr\u00edklad pam\u00e4t\u00e1m ur\u010dit\u00e9 veci, ktor\u00e9 som za\u017eil s mojou mamou, \u00faplne inak, ako si ich pam\u00e4t\u00e1 ona.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Pri autofikcii u\u017e n\u00e1zov napoved\u00e1, \u017ee to je \u010diasto\u010dne autobiografia, \u010diasto\u010dne fikcia, a preto vie by\u0165 omnoho \u00faprimnej\u0161ia a objekt\u00edvnej\u0161ia ako autobiografia, ke\u010f\u017ee to vlastne nie je pravda, ale je tam \u010dlovek, ktor\u00fd to filtruje a skrz ktor\u00e9ho to \u010ditate\u013e vn\u00edma.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><em>Predpoklad\u00e1m, \u017ee je to do istej miery aj ochrana t\u00fdch, o ktor\u00fdch sa p\u00ed\u0161e. Keby to \u010dlovek prezentoval ako autobiografiu, tak pr\u00e1ve kv\u00f4li tomu, \u010do hovor\u00edte, \u017ee \u013eudia si pam\u00e4taj\u00fa r\u00f4zne veci r\u00f4zne, by to asi mohlo vies\u0165 k nepr\u00edjemn\u00fdm situ\u00e1ci\u00e1m.&nbsp;<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">To by som netvrdil. Ja som si to tie\u017e myslel, ale moje sk\u00fasenosti s t\u00fdm, \u010do sa stalo po vydan\u00ed knihy, a&nbsp;mysl\u00edm, \u017ee o tom \u010dasto hovoria \u00c9douard Louis aj Karl Ove Knausg\u00e5rd, ktor\u00fd si tie\u017e kv\u00f4li tomu pre\u017eil dos\u0165 ve\u013ek\u00e9 probl\u00e9my v rodine, ukazuj\u00fa, \u017ee to paradoxne nikoho nechr\u00e1ni, a najmenej zo v\u0161etk\u00fdch t\u00fdch, o ktor\u00fdch to je.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><em>Teraz ste ma prekvapili.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u00c1no, ja som si tie\u017e myslel, \u017ee ich to ochr\u00e1ni, ale je to len tak\u00fd <em>wishful thinking<\/em>. Chceli by sme, aby to tak bolo, ale \u013eudia sa tam aj tak spozn\u00e1vaj\u00fa, alebo sa na\u0161tv\u00fa, ke\u010f tam nie s\u00fa, alebo bud\u00fa tvrdi\u0165, \u017ee to, \u010do sa tam p\u00ed\u0161e, nie je pravda.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Ono to s\u00favis\u00ed s t\u00fdm, \u017ee v\u00e4\u010d\u0161ina \u013eud\u00ed m\u00e1 pocit, \u017ee autofikcia je jednoducho len beletrizovan\u00e1 autobiografia a t\u00fa liter\u00e1rnu hru v tom v\u00f4bec nevn\u00edmaj\u00fa.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><em>V knihe ste rie\u0161ili, ak\u00fd mal vplyv alkoholizmus v\u00e1\u0161ho star\u00e9ho otca na va\u0161u rodinu, a namiesto obvi\u0148ovania sa sna\u017e\u00edte pristupova\u0165 k tomu s empatiou. Pomohlo v\u00e1m to vyrovna\u0165 sa s jeho spr\u00e1van\u00edm a pochopi\u0165 ho?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Ja som to asi v\u017edy podvedome ch\u00e1pal v\u010faka tomu, \u017ee to ch\u00e1pala moja mama. D\u00f4vod, pre\u010do je to v tej knihe tak explicitne pop\u00edsan\u00e9, je, aby to pochopili aj \u010ditatelia. T\u00e1 kniha mus\u00ed pon\u00faknu\u0165 \u010ditate\u013eom cestu, ktorou si \u010dlovek, ktor\u00fd ju nap\u00edsal, u\u017e pre\u0161iel, a sprostredkova\u0165 ju \u010ditate\u013eom. To je to, \u010do som zam\u00fd\u0161\u013eal.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Mne najviac pomohlo uvedomi\u0165 si, \u010do je za t\u00fdm, ke\u010f sme s\u0165ahovali dedove veci z bytu, ktor\u00fd si prenaj\u00edmal na ubytovni. Mal tam denn\u00edky z protialkoholickej lie\u010debne a pre m\u0148a bol toto moment, kedy som videl nap\u00edsan\u00e9 nie\u010do, \u010do som tu\u0161il u\u017e d\u00e1vno.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">V skratke, mal pocit, \u017ee nesp\u013a\u0148a tradi\u010dn\u00e9 po\u017eiadavky spolo\u010dnosti na to, ako sa m\u00e1 spr\u00e1va\u0165 ako chlap, nech to u\u017e znamen\u00e1 \u010doko\u013evek. A neistota v \u0148om vyvol\u00e1vala potrebuj\u00fa ut\u00e1pa\u0165 to v alkohole a sebade\u0161trukt\u00edvnom spr\u00e1van\u00ed. Pre m\u0148a bolo d\u00f4le\u017eit\u00e9 si uvedomi\u0165, \u017ee aj \u010dlovek, ktor\u00fd ubli\u017euje druh\u00fdm a traumatizuje ich, to nerob\u00ed preto, \u017ee by bol zl\u00fd, ale preto, \u017ee je s\u00e1m ubl\u00ed\u017een\u00fd a traumatizovan\u00fd a cykl\u00ed sa to.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><em>Hovor\u00edte o genera\u010dnej traume?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Genera\u010dn\u00e1 trauma mi celkovo pripad\u00e1 ako vec, ktor\u00e1 je ve\u013emi \u0161pecifick\u00e1 pre postkomunistick\u00fd blok. Aby som to e\u0161te stiahol na \u0161ir\u0161iu vrstvu toho rom\u00e1nu, my sme tu \u017eili s minul\u00fdm re\u017eimom, ktor\u00fd \u013eu\u010fom br\u00e1nil dosiahnu\u0165 svoj potenci\u00e1l, \u010do dnes tro\u0161ku prebieha znova, ale teraz je to triedne. Teraz u\u017e je sloboda a v\u0161etko je teoreticky mo\u017en\u00e9, zlyhanie jednotlivcov preto pova\u017eujeme len za chybu jednotlivcov.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Probl\u00e9m je pritom u\u017e v samotnej defin\u00edcii chudoby. Napr\u00edklad to, ako si predstavujeme chudobn\u00fdch \u013eud\u00ed, \u010dasto nezodpoved\u00e1 skuto\u010dnosti. O\u010dak\u00e1vame, \u017ee nebud\u00fa ma\u0165 telef\u00f3ny a podobne, a v skuto\u010dnosti s\u00fa to napr\u00edklad \u013eudia, na ktor\u00fdch by ste to ani nepovedali, ale maj\u00fa na krku exek\u00facie. Napr\u00edklad v \u010cesku je jeden z naj\u010dastej\u0161\u00edch d\u00f4vodov exek\u00facie, \u017ee sa \u013eudia zadl\u017eia, lebo nemaj\u00fa dos\u0165 pe\u0148az\u00ed, aby k\u00fapili de\u0165om dar\u010deky na Vianoce, tak si na ne po\u017ei\u010daj\u00fa.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><em>\u00c1no, pripad\u00e1 mi neetick\u00e9, \u017ee pred Vianocami chodia v telke reklamy na p\u00f4\u017ei\u010dky, cez \u0161portov\u00e9 prenosy zase reklamy na st\u00e1vkov\u00e9 kancel\u00e1rie.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Je to nebezpe\u010dn\u00e9. Ja som si to v\u0161imol paradoxne teraz pri Magnesii Litere, \u017ee bolo mo\u017en\u00e9 stavi\u0165 si na v\u00fdsledky mojej kateg\u00f3rie, a pripadalo mi to \u00faplne smie\u0161ne vzh\u013eadom na to, \u017ee v nej bola pr\u00e1ve moja kniha, ktor\u00e1 nepriamo kritizuje biznis s chudobou. Mesto P\u0159erov, kde sa kniha odohr\u00e1va, je toti\u017e zn\u00e1me t\u00fdm, \u017ee m\u00e1 najv\u00e4\u010d\u0161\u00ed exek\u00fatorsk\u00fd \u00farad v \u010cesku. Celkom ma to pobavilo, ale z\u00e1rove\u0148 ma to rozosmutnilo. Je to tak\u00e9 typick\u00e9.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><em>Za\u010diatkom mil\u00e9nia, ke\u010f ste dospievali a vtedy sa odohr\u00e1va aj dej knihy, nebolo ve\u013ea pozit\u00edvnej kv\u00edr reprezent\u00e1cie v m\u00e9di\u00e1ch, osobne si pam\u00e4t\u00e1m maxim\u00e1lne <\/em><\/strong><strong>Philadelphiu<\/strong><strong><em>. Ako v\u00e1s to ovplyvnilo?&nbsp;<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Je to zauj\u00edmav\u00e9, preto\u017ee ja som dlho nevidel ani <em>Philadelphiu<\/em>, a\u017e ke\u010f sme ju mali na v\u00fd\u0161ke v r\u00e1mci jedn\u00e9ho predmetu. Vlastne <em>Philadelphia<\/em> bola jedn\u00fdm z prv\u00fdch filmov v\u00f4bec, ktor\u00e9 mali pozit\u00edvnu reprezent\u00e1ciu a kv\u00edr postavy tam neboli len vrahovia alebo \u00fachyl\u00e1ci. Taktie\u017e si spom\u00ednam na <em>Brokeback Mountain<\/em>, ktor\u00e1 bola dos\u0165 kontroverzn\u00e1. Jakeovi Gyllenhaallovi a Heathovi Ledgerovi vtedy hovorili, \u017ee ak bud\u00fa hra\u0165 kv\u00edr postavy, zni\u010dia si kari\u00e9ru, na\u0161\u0165astie sa ale ni\u010d tak\u00e9 nestalo.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">M\u00e1m sk\u00f4r pocit, \u017ee som nevidel skoro \u017eiadnu reprezent\u00e1ciu. A\u017e niekedy ku koncu strednej som zistil, \u017ee existuje seri\u00e1l <em>Queer as folk<\/em> a ten sa mi \u00faplne nep\u00e1\u010dil, preto\u017ee v\u00f4bec nezodpovedal mojej sk\u00fasenosti, nevedel som sa s t\u00fdm stoto\u017eni\u0165. Nesk\u00f4r som sa dostal k <em>Hodin\u00e1m<\/em> Michaela Cunninghama.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Moja najv\u00e4\u010d\u0161ia sk\u00fasenos\u0165 s kv\u00edr postavou, a t\u00e1 vlastne ani nebola kv\u00edr, bol Michel zo <em>\u017dien z rodu Gilmorovcov<\/em>. Bol stereotypn\u00fd a navy\u0161e ani nebol celkom priznan\u00fd, ale bola to prv\u00e1 postava, s ktorou som sa vedel stoto\u017eni\u0165.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Takto reprezent\u00e1cia funguje \u2013 preber\u00e1me vzory a mo\u017enosti toho, k\u00fdm m\u00f4\u017eeme by\u0165, na z\u00e1klade toho, \u010do vid\u00edme okolo seba v umen\u00ed alebo len vo svete okolo n\u00e1s. Preto si mysl\u00edm, \u017ee je ve\u013emi d\u00f4le\u017eit\u00e9, aby existovali r\u00f4znorod\u00e9 pr\u00edbehy z r\u00f4znych soci\u00e1lnych vrstiev, r\u00f4zne typy pr\u00edbehov, postavy r\u00f4znej etnicity, preto\u017ee je to nie\u010do, \u010do n\u00e1m jednak roz\u0161iruje obzory a jednak to \u013eu\u010fom, ktor\u00ed s\u00fa z t\u00fdch prostred\u00ed, d\u00e1va sign\u00e1l, \u017ee je to v poriadku, \u017ee s\u00fa tu \u013eudia, ktor\u00ed s\u00fa ako oni, \u017ee v tom nie s\u00fa sami.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><em>Vn\u00edmate, \u017ee sa v s\u00fa\u010dasnosti situ\u00e1cia zlep\u0161ila?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Dnes sme u\u017e naozaj niekde inde. Ja napr\u00edklad ve\u013emi fand\u00edm <em>Mot\u00fdlikom<\/em> od Alice Oseman, lebo ak je nie\u010do, \u010do mlad\u00ed kv\u00edr \u013eudia potrebuj\u00fa, je to pr\u00e1ve nie\u010do tak\u00e9to pozit\u00edvne, <em>feel-good<\/em> a nen\u00e1ro\u010dn\u00e9. \u00dalohou tak\u00fdchto diel je uk\u00e1za\u0165 mlad\u00fdm kv\u00edr \u013eu\u010fom, \u017ee m\u00f4\u017eu \u017ei\u0165 \u0161\u0165astn\u00fd \u017eivot a \u017ee oby\u010dajn\u00e9 strasti, ktor\u00fdmi si prech\u00e1dza ka\u017ed\u00fd t\u00edned\u017eer, m\u00f4\u017eu za\u017e\u00edva\u0165 aj oni, \u017ee to nemus\u00ed by\u0165 len \u0161ikana a n\u00e1silie, ale aj \u0161\u0165astie, ako sa hovor\u00ed \u201equeer joy\u201c.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Celkovo si mysl\u00edm, \u017ee young adult literat\u00fara je v tomto popredu oproti tomu, \u010domu v \u010cesku hovor\u00edme \u201evysok\u00e1 literat\u00fara\u201c. Z tejto kateg\u00f3rie si pam\u00e4t\u00e1m sn\u00e1\u010f len knihu <em>Detransition, baby <\/em>od autorky Torrey Peters. Je to prv\u00fd rom\u00e1n od transrodovej autorky, ktor\u00fd bol nominovan\u00fd na Woman\u2019s Prize for Fiction. Ide o knihu, ktor\u00fa \u013eudia prirovn\u00e1vaj\u00fa k <em>Sexu v meste<\/em>, akur\u00e1t, \u017ee je kv\u00edr. Je to naozaj kvalitn\u00fd mainstream, ktor\u00fd prekonal bari\u00e9ru fikcie, a z\u00e1rove\u0148 to bol celkom ve\u013ek\u00fd komer\u010dn\u00fd hit.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u010co v\u0161ak mne osobne vad\u00ed, je nota kv\u00edr utrpenia. S\u00fa autori, ktor\u00ed konzistentne p\u00ed\u0161u tak\u00fdmto \u0161t\u00fdlom, napr\u00edklad Hanya Yanagihara vydala u\u017e tri knihy, ktor\u00e9 s\u00fa vyslovene len o utrpen\u00ed kv\u00edr post\u00e1v.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Dokonca m\u00e1m pocit, \u017ee som k tomu trochu prispel aj ja, ke\u010f\u017ee moja kniha je celkom tragick\u00e1. Ale ke\u010f\u017ee ide s\u010dasti o autobiografick\u00fd pr\u00edbeh, v ktorom sa d\u00e1 n\u00e1js\u0165 aj n\u00e1dej, sn\u00e1\u010f to nie je zase a\u017e tak\u00fd probl\u00e9m.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Celkovo si v\u0161ak mysl\u00edm, \u017ee je to dnes s reprezent\u00e1ciou omnoho lep\u0161ie, akur\u00e1t si mus\u00edme d\u00e1va\u0165 pozor, aby sme nespadli do stereotypov.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Autorka: Krist\u00edna Gyur\u00edkov\u00e1 \/ FOTO: Marta Nov\u00e1kov\u00e1, Barbora Mar\u0161\u00ed\u010dek Text sme prv\u00fd raz publikovali v \u010d\u00edsle Leto 2024. B\u00e1snik a anglista Marek Tor\u010d\u00edk so svoj\u00edm debutov\u00fdm rom\u00e1nom Rozlo\u017e\u00ed\u0161 pam\u011b\u0165 z\u00edskal v r\u00e1mci s\u00fa\u0165a\u017ee Magnesia Litera cenu Luxor Litera za pr\u00f3zu 2024. V knihe, ktor\u00e1 kombinuje prvky autobiografie a fikcie, autor rie\u0161i t\u00e9my nespo\u013eahlivosti pam\u00e4ti, ale <a href=\"https:\/\/duhovyrok.sk\/qys\/spisovatel-marek-torcik-moja-zivotna-skusenost-nie-je-jedinecna-prave-naopak-mnohi-ludia-sa-v-mojom-pribehu-nasli\/\" class=\"more-link\">&#8230;<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":21,"featured_media":4607,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[257,259],"tags":[266,482,587,518,586,142,385],"class_list":["post-4528","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-literatura","category-rozhovory","tag-from-qys","tag-kvir","tag-kvir-indetity","tag-literatura","tag-marek-torcik","tag-queer","tag-spisovatel"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/duhovyrok.sk\/qys\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4528","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/duhovyrok.sk\/qys\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/duhovyrok.sk\/qys\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/duhovyrok.sk\/qys\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/21"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/duhovyrok.sk\/qys\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=4528"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/duhovyrok.sk\/qys\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4528\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":4609,"href":"https:\/\/duhovyrok.sk\/qys\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4528\/revisions\/4609"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/duhovyrok.sk\/qys\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/4607"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/duhovyrok.sk\/qys\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=4528"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/duhovyrok.sk\/qys\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=4528"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/duhovyrok.sk\/qys\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=4528"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}