{"id":2810,"date":"2021-06-27T00:42:20","date_gmt":"2021-06-26T22:42:20","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/duhovyrok.sk\/qys\/?p=2810"},"modified":"2021-06-27T11:06:24","modified_gmt":"2021-06-27T09:06:24","slug":"dvakrat-sa-vydala-mala-dve-deti-dnes-spaja-queer-ludi-nad-45-rokov","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/duhovyrok.sk\/qys\/dvakrat-sa-vydala-mala-dve-deti-dnes-spaja-queer-ludi-nad-45-rokov\/","title":{"rendered":"Dvakr\u00e1t sa vydala, mala dve deti, dnes sp\u00e1ja queer \u013eud\u00ed nad 45 rokov"},"content":{"rendered":"\n

Autor textu: Ria Gehrerov\u00e1 \/ Arch\u00edv Beaty Kov\u00e1\u010dikovej<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Text sme prv\u00fd raz publikovali v \u010d\u00edsle Jar 2021<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Ke\u010f sa p\u00e4\u0165desiatni\u010dka M\u00e1ria \u0160\u010depkov\u00e1 svojich priate\u013eov a priateliek sp\u00fdtala, \u010di si spolo\u010dne nezalo\u017eia skupinu pre LGBTI \u013eud\u00ed nad 45 rokov, v miestnosti zostalo ticho, o\u010di sklopen\u00e9. Vtedy si uvedomila, \u017ee star\u0161ia gener\u00e1cia m\u00e1 pocit, \u017ee do komunity tak celkom nepatr\u00ed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Povedala si, \u017ee je na\u010dase za\u010da\u0165 pracova\u0165 na tom, aby sa LGBTI \u013eudia vo vy\u0161\u0161om veku nec\u00edtili prehliadan\u00ed, menejcenn\u00ed \u010di zosmie\u0161\u0148ovan\u00ed, povedala v rozhovore pre magaz\u00edn Queer.sk. A preto na Facebooku zalo\u017eila skupinu<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

M\u00e1ria sa v\u0161ak \u010dasom rozhodla by\u0165 viac offline a \u201euprata\u0165 si vo svojom \u017eivote,\u201c ako to ona sama pomenovala. Zo skupiny odi\u0161la a jej vedenie odovzdala Be\u00e1te Kov\u00e1\u010dikovej. T\u00e1 sa dnes sna\u017e\u00ed, aby sa v skupine ka\u017ed\u00fd  a ka\u017ed\u00e1 c\u00edtili dobre.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Dve man\u017eelstv\u00e1 a dve deti<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Be\u00e1tin pr\u00edbeh ukazuje, pre\u010do s\u00fa dnes mnoh\u00ed gejovia \u010di lesby vo vy\u0161\u0161om veku nevidite\u013en\u00fdmi. \u201eV mladosti som bola hlboko veriaca a sna\u017eila som sa vtesna\u0165 do hran\u00edc, ktor\u00e9 mi viera ur\u010dila,\u201c hovor\u00ed Be\u00e1ta. \u201eVydala som sa, mala som dve deti a \u017eila som heterosexu\u00e1lnym \u017eivotom. Ale nebola som \u0161\u0165astn\u00e1.\u201c<\/p>\n\n\n\n

V s\u00fa\u010dasnosti m\u00e1 priate\u013eku. \u201eDc\u00e9ra n\u00e1m fand\u00ed,\u201c hovor\u00ed. Syn m\u00e1 zdravotn\u00e9 znev\u00fdhodnenie a Be\u00e1ta sa aj preto profesion\u00e1lne venuje \u0161peci\u00e1lnej pedagogike. U\u010d\u00ed na \u0161kole vo Ve\u013ekom Krt\u00ed\u0161i, kde pracuje aj s r\u00f3mskymi de\u0165mi.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Napriek tomu, \u017ee \u017eije v malom meste, svoju LGBTI identitu ani priate\u013eku netaj\u00ed. \u201eAle nie ka\u017ed\u00fd chce \u017ei\u0165 takto otvorene,\u201c hovor\u00ed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Aj preto je pod\u013ea nej uzavret\u00e1 skupina pre star\u0161\u00edch LGBTI \u013eud\u00ed dobr\u00fdm sp\u00f4sobom, ako sa zozn\u00e1mi\u0165, n\u00e1js\u0165 si priate\u013eov a vz\u00e1jomne sa podpori\u0165.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Transrodov\u00ed \u013eudia s\u00fa pre m\u0148a nov\u00e1 inakos\u0165<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Ke\u010f sa k skupine prid\u00e1te, mali by ste sa predstavi\u0165: meno, vek, mesto, odkia\u013e ste. Po\u010das pand\u00e9mie sa nov\u00ed \u010dlenovia a \u010dlenky vidia aspo\u0148 cez videohovor, ale po pand\u00e9mii chc\u00fa organizova\u0165 re\u0165azov\u00e9 stretnutia v r\u00f4znych mest\u00e1ch na Slovensku.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201eSkupina je ve\u013emi r\u00f4znorod\u00e1. M\u00e1me v\u00fdsluhov\u00e9ho vojaka, umelky\u0148u z Kanady,\u201c menuje Be\u00e1ta. M\u00e1 sk\u00fasenos\u0165 s t\u00fdm, \u017ee gejovia a lesby s prib\u00fadaj\u00facim vekom zost\u00e1vaj\u00fa osamel\u00ed. \u201eNepoznaj\u00fa nikoho, kto by \u017eil ako oni.\u201c<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Aj preto mnoh\u00e9 a mnoh\u00ed z nich vznik skupiny priv\u00edtali. \u201eNasmejeme sa spolu, porozpr\u00e1vame si, \u010do m\u00e1 kto nov\u00e9,\u201c hovor\u00ed. Spo\u010diatku sa sna\u017eili na online stretnutiach venova\u0165 nejakej konkr\u00e9tnej t\u00e9me, ale tak\u00fdto koncept sa neujal. \u201eT\u00ed \u013eudia ove\u013ea viac t\u00fa\u017eili po priate\u013estv\u00e1ch. Niektor\u00ed sa na m\u0148a obracaj\u00fa aj v s\u00fakromn\u00fdch spr\u00e1vach. V\u017edy, ke\u010f viem, sna\u017e\u00edm sa im pom\u00f4c\u0165,\u201c hovor\u00ed Be\u00e1ta.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

V skupine sa stretla aj s t\u00e9mami, ktor\u00e9 jej dovtedy boli pomerne cudzie. \u201eNapr\u00edklad m\u00e1me v skupine aj trans \u013eud\u00ed prech\u00e1dzaj\u00facich tranz\u00edciou. To je pre m\u0148a nov\u00e1 inakos\u0165,\u201c prizn\u00e1va. \u201eSk\u00fa\u0161am sa v\u017ei\u0165 do toho, ako to vn\u00edmaj\u00fa. Neviem im mo\u017eno odborne poradi\u0165, ale viem im by\u0165 nabl\u00edzku.\u201c<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u010co zaznie v skupine, zostane v skupine<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Aj ke\u010f je skupina ur\u010den\u00e1 pre \u013eud\u00ed od 45 rokov, ob\u010das urobia v\u00fdnimku a prijm\u00fa aj mlad\u0161\u00edch \u010dlenov. Dokonca aj sama Be\u00e1ta je tesne pod vekov\u00fdm limitom skupiny. \u201eO prijatie do skupiny n\u00e1s \u017eiadaj\u00fa aj LGBTI \u013eudia na hranici \u0161tyridsiatky. Niekedy urob\u00edme v\u00fdnimku, lebo aj v tejto vekovej skupine maj\u00fa ob\u010das pocit, \u017ee nikam nepatria,\u201c hovor\u00ed Be\u00e1ta.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Jedn\u00fdm z d\u00f4vodov, pre\u010do skupina pre queer \u013eud\u00ed v zrelom veku vznikla, bol aj fakt, \u017ee na online zoznamk\u00e1ch alebo v skupin\u00e1ch pre LGBTI \u013eud\u00ed dnes \u010dasto figuruj\u00fa najm\u00e4 dvadsiatnici alebo t\u00edned\u017eeri. No star\u0161\u00edch otvorene \u017eij\u00facich gejov alebo lesieb je st\u00e1le pomerne m\u00e1lo. Mnoh\u00ed sa boja, \u017ee by ich coming-out popret\u0155hal ich priate\u013esk\u00e9 \u010di rodinn\u00e9 v\u00e4zby.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201eSkupinu tvoria r\u00f4zni \u013eudia, \u010das\u0165 z nich je bez vz\u0165ahu, in\u00fdm zomrel partner alebo partnerka,\u201c hovor\u00ed Be\u00e1ta.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Dnes je v skupine asi 170 LGBTI \u013eud\u00ed a ich podporovate\u013eov. Riadia sa pravidlami, ktor\u00e9 sa pri vstupe zavia\u017eu dodr\u017eiava\u0165. Je napr\u00edklad zak\u00e1zan\u00e9 vyn\u00e1\u0161a\u0165 zo skupiny s\u00fakromn\u00e9 inform\u00e1cie, \u010dlenovia by k sebe mali pristupova\u0165 s \u00factou, empatiou, po\u010d\u00fava\u0165 sa navz\u00e1jom a upozor\u0148ova\u0165 adminov na hanliv\u00e9 koment\u00e1re.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Napriek tomu, \u017ee Be\u00e1ta v s\u00fa\u010dasnosti skupinu moderuje, nepova\u017euje sa za aktivistku. Pre\u010do? \u201eAk by som \u0148ou bola, asi by som musela st\u00e1le bojova\u0165 za ur\u010dit\u00e9 t\u00e9my a musela by som o nich viac vedie\u0165. Zatia\u013e mi sta\u010d\u00ed, \u017ee pom\u00e1ham vytv\u00e1ra\u0165 skupinu, v ktorej si \u013eudia rozumej\u00fa.\u201c<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Autor textu: Ria Gehrerov\u00e1 \/ Arch\u00edv Beaty Kov\u00e1\u010dikovej Text sme prv\u00fd raz publikovali v \u010d\u00edsle Jar 2021 Ke\u010f sa p\u00e4\u0165desiatni\u010dka M\u00e1ria \u0160\u010depkov\u00e1 svojich priate\u013eov a priateliek sp\u00fdtala, \u010di si spolo\u010dne nezalo\u017eia skupinu pre LGBTI \u013eud\u00ed nad 45 rokov, v miestnosti zostalo ticho, o\u010di sklopen\u00e9. Vtedy si uvedomila, \u017ee star\u0161ia gener\u00e1cia m\u00e1 pocit, \u017ee do komunity …<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":2882,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[6,10,259],"tags":[20,266,279,138],"class_list":["post-2810","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-pribehy-lgbti-ludi","category-kultura","category-rozhovory","tag-aktivizmus","tag-from-qys","tag-komunita","tag-pribeh"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/duhovyrok.sk\/qys\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2810","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/duhovyrok.sk\/qys\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/duhovyrok.sk\/qys\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/duhovyrok.sk\/qys\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/4"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/duhovyrok.sk\/qys\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2810"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/duhovyrok.sk\/qys\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2810\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2881,"href":"https:\/\/duhovyrok.sk\/qys\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2810\/revisions\/2881"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/duhovyrok.sk\/qys\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/2882"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/duhovyrok.sk\/qys\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2810"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/duhovyrok.sk\/qys\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2810"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/duhovyrok.sk\/qys\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2810"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}