{"id":2102,"date":"2019-10-07T08:54:54","date_gmt":"2019-10-07T06:54:54","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/qys.sk\/?p=2102"},"modified":"2021-03-18T09:00:39","modified_gmt":"2021-03-18T08:00:39","slug":"agnes-lovecka-keby-som-mala-odtialto-pre-svoju-orientaciu-utiect-inde-by-som-hladala-stastie-asi-len-velmi-tazko-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/duhovyrok.sk\/qys\/agnes-lovecka-keby-som-mala-odtialto-pre-svoju-orientaciu-utiect-inde-by-som-hladala-stastie-asi-len-velmi-tazko-2\/","title":{"rendered":"Agnes Loveck\u00e1: Keby som mala odtia\u013eto pre svoju orient\u00e1ciu utiec\u0165, inde by som h\u013eadala \u0161\u0165astie asi len ve\u013emi \u0165a\u017eko"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><strong>Autorka textu: Dominika Chrastov\u00e1 \/ Foto: s\u00fakromn\u00fd arch\u00edv<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>Arch\u00edvny text sme prv\u00fd raz publikovali v \u010d\u00edsle Jese\u0148 2019.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Agnes Loveck\u00fa poznaj\u00fa \u013eudia najm\u00e4 ako hudobn\u00ed\u010dku skupiny \u017div\u00e9 kvety. No okrem toho je aj vin\u00e1rka, partnerka a\u00a0v\u00a0neposlednom rade matka. Cestu za rodi\u010dovstvom bli\u017e\u0161ie op\u00edsala po\u010das PRIDE t\u00fd\u017ed\u0148a v diskusii Dve mamy a\u00a0dvaja otcovia a\u00a0teraz v rozhovore\u00a0pre magaz\u00edn QYS.\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>\u017dijete s&nbsp;partnerkou, s&nbsp;ktorou vychov\u00e1vate dve deti. Ak\u00e1 bola va\u0161a cesta za rodi\u010dovstvom? Ko\u013eko trval cel\u00fd proces h\u013eadania mo\u017enost\u00ed a&nbsp;vybavovania?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>M\u00e1m \u0161\u0165astie a so svojou partnerkou sme sa zhodli v tom, \u017ee chceme ma\u0165 deti, \u017ee spolu chceme zalo\u017ei\u0165 rodinu. Ve\u013ea na\u0161ich kamar\u00e1tok z&nbsp;homosexu\u00e1lnej komunity deti nechc\u00fa z&nbsp;r\u00f4znych d\u00f4vodov. Mnoh\u00e9 sa boja privies\u0165 deti do na\u0161ej spolo\u010dnosti z&nbsp;obavy, \u017ee bud\u00fa stigmatizovane t\u00fdm, v&nbsp;akej rodine \u017eij\u00fa. Vlastne tej obave aj rozumiem, ale s&nbsp;partnerkou ver\u00edme, \u017ee treba kona\u0165 pod\u013ea vlastn\u00e9ho presved\u010denia, a&nbsp;tak sme od za\u010diatku rozm\u00fd\u0161\u013eali, ako by sa to dalo zrealizova\u0165. Dlho sme zva\u017eovali, ak\u00fdm sp\u00f4sobom sa do toho procesu pusti\u0165, t\u00e1 ment\u00e1lna pr\u00edprava bola nekone\u010dn\u00e1. Ve\u013ea sme \u010d\u00edtali, rozpr\u00e1vali sa a&nbsp;radili s&nbsp;\u013eu\u010fmi, ktor\u00ed nie\u010do podobn\u00e9 podst\u00fapili, aj ke\u010f n\u00e1js\u0165 tak\u00fdch \u013eud\u00ed bolo zo za\u010diatku priam nemo\u017en\u00e9.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Na\u0161ou prioritou bolo rie\u0161i\u0165 to leg\u00e1lnou cestou. P\u00f4vodne sme mysleli, \u017ee na kliniku asistovanej reprodukcie budeme lieta\u0165 do D\u00e1nska, ale v&nbsp;roku 2015 sa mo\u017enosti otvorili aj v&nbsp;susednom Rak\u00fasku, a&nbsp;tak sme nakoniec cel\u00fd proces absolvovali na klinike vo Viedni. Museli sme nav\u0161t\u00edvi\u0165 rak\u00faskeho not\u00e1ra a&nbsp;pred rak\u00faskym z\u00e1konom sme dnes rovnocenn\u00e9 mamy obom na\u0161im synom. Ka\u017ed\u00e1 sme porodila jedn\u00e9ho z nich. Rozhodli sme sa pre jedn\u00e9ho anonymn\u00e9ho darcu, ktor\u00e9ho bud\u00fa m\u00f4c\u0165 na\u0161e deti v&nbsp;dospelosti kontaktova\u0165. Op\u00edsa\u0165 cel\u00fa na\u0161u cestu by bolo nadlho, ale ak to niekoho naozaj zauj\u00edma, \u013eahko si ma vyh\u013ead\u00e1 a&nbsp;rada porad\u00edm.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Na Slovensku, ako vieme, nie s\u00fa uz\u00e1konen\u00e9 registrovan\u00e9 partnerstv\u00e1 a&nbsp;rodi\u010dia rovnak\u00e9ho pohlavie nie s\u00fa pr\u00e1vne uznan\u00ed. V&nbsp;ktor\u00fdch konkr\u00e9tnych situ\u00e1ci\u00e1ch v\u00e1m to sp\u00f4sobuje probl\u00e9my a obmedzenia?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Mysl\u00edm, \u017ee skuto\u010dn\u00e9 existen\u010dn\u00e9 probl\u00e9my hrozia, ke\u010f sa jednej z&nbsp;partneriek alebo jedn\u00e9mu z partnerov stane nejak\u00e9 ne\u0161\u0165astie. Vtedy nastupuj\u00fa na sc\u00e9nu \u00farady a&nbsp;slovensk\u00e9 z\u00e1kony, ktor\u00e9 s\u00fa k&nbsp;rodin\u00e1m, ako sme my, extr\u00e9mne krut\u00e9. V skuto\u010dnosti sme pre ne neexistuj\u00facou rodinou, a&nbsp;to aj napriek tomu, \u017ee na Slovensku n\u00e1s \u017eije pomerne ve\u013ea.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Oproti tomu s\u00fa na\u0161e probl\u00e9my z&nbsp;be\u017en\u00e9ho \u017eivota zatia\u013e zanedbate\u013en\u00e9. V&nbsp;ka\u017edodennom \u017eivote je to sk\u00f4r o&nbsp;osobnom vz\u0165ahu s&nbsp;u\u010dite\u013ekou, doktorkou, susedmi a&nbsp;tam sme sa doteraz s nen\u00e1vis\u0165ou nikdy nestretli, sk\u00f4r naopak. Je to v\u0161ak o&nbsp;konkr\u00e9tnych \u013eu\u010foch a&nbsp;o&nbsp;tom, na koho natraf\u00edte.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Ktor\u00e9 pr\u00e1vne \u00fapravy by v\u00e1m na Slovensku najviac zjednodu\u0161ili \u017eivot?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Registrovan\u00e9 partnerstvo a&nbsp;adopcie. To prv\u00e9 pre vz\u0165ah m\u0148a a&nbsp;mojej partnerky a&nbsp;to druh\u00e9 pre na\u0161e deti. Odhliadnuc od&nbsp;fundamentalistick\u00fdch v\u00e1\u0161n\u00ed, vyrie\u0161ilo by to konkr\u00e9tne situ\u00e1cie, s&nbsp;ktor\u00fdmi sa denne stret\u00e1vame, ale tie\u017e hrozby, ktor\u00e9 nad na\u0161ou rodinou visia ako gilot\u00edna.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>N\u00e1zor \u013eud\u00ed na adopcie det\u00ed homosexu\u00e1lnymi p\u00e1rmi je \u010dasto posunut\u00fd do extr\u00e9mnej polohy ak\u00e9hosi prerozde\u013eovania det\u00ed medzi homosexu\u00e1lov. To je nen\u00e1vistn\u00fd blud, ktor\u00fd sa tu \u00faspe\u0161ne \u0161\u00edri len v\u010faka tomu, \u017ee neexistuje re\u00e1lna diskusia. Pravda je, \u017ee adopcie by vyrie\u0161ili hlavne \u017eivotn\u00fa situ\u00e1ciu det\u00ed a rod\u00edn, ako sme my. Na\u0161e deti by nadobudli rovnak\u00e9 pr\u00e1va, ako v\u0161etky ostatn\u00e9 deti. Napr\u00edklad by im nehrozil detsk\u00fd domov v&nbsp;pr\u00edpade \u00famrtia biologick\u00e9ho rodi\u010da, mali by mo\u017enos\u0165 dedi\u0165 po oboch rodi\u010doch a&nbsp;mnoho \u010fal\u0161\u00edch zdanlivo samozrejm\u00fdch vec\u00ed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Zva\u017eovali ste niekedy odchod do inej krajiny s&nbsp;priaznivej\u0161ou legislat\u00edvou?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u017dijeme na farme,&nbsp;hospod\u00e1rime na p\u00f4de a&nbsp;na\u0161u pr\u00e1cu milujeme. Neviem si svoj \u017eivot moment\u00e1lne predstavi\u0165 inde. Nevylu\u010dujem tak\u00fa situ\u00e1ciu, ale keby som odtia\u013eto mala uteka\u0165 pre svoju orient\u00e1ciu, u\u017e by som asi ve\u013emi \u0165a\u017eko h\u013eadala \u0161\u0165astie inde.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>B\u00fdvali ste v&nbsp;Bratislave, o&nbsp;rodinn\u00fd podnik Slobodn\u00e9 vin\u00e1rstvo sa star\u00e1te v&nbsp;Zemianskych Sadoch. Ak\u00e9 rozdiely ste postrehli vo vn\u00edman\u00ed LGBTI komunity v&nbsp;hlavnom meste a&nbsp;na vidieku?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u017dila som v\u00a0Bratislave, ale aj v\u00a0New Yorku a\u00a0viem ak\u00e9 oslobodzuj\u00face je strati\u0165 sa v\u00a0dave. Na dedine je to inak. Nikto nerie\u0161i \u017eiadnu komunitu, len konkr\u00e9tnych \u013eud\u00ed. A\u00a0konkr\u00e9tni \u013eudia sa tak niekedy st\u00e1vaj\u00fa z\u00e1stupcami celej komunity. To za\u017e\u00edvam, tie sk\u00famav\u00e9 poh\u013eady. \u010clovek na to nem\u00e1 v\u017edy n\u00e1ladu, ale\u00a0beriem to tak, \u017ee lep\u0161ia zvedavos\u0165 ako nen\u00e1vis\u0165. Som dnes hlboko presved\u010den\u00e1, \u017ee jedin\u00e9, \u010do na\u0161ej spolo\u010dnosti pom\u00f4\u017ee, je otvoren\u00fd \u017eivot LGBTI \u013eud\u00ed, ktor\u00ed nim nastavia zrkadlo v\u0161etk\u00fdm tm\u00e1rom.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"960\" height=\"960\" src=\"https:\/\/duhovyrok.sk\/qys\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2021\/01\/clanok-6-Agnes-Lovecka-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-2091\" srcset=\"https:\/\/duhovyrok.sk\/qys\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2021\/01\/clanok-6-Agnes-Lovecka-1.jpg 960w, https:\/\/duhovyrok.sk\/qys\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2021\/01\/clanok-6-Agnes-Lovecka-1-600x600.jpg 600w, https:\/\/duhovyrok.sk\/qys\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2021\/01\/clanok-6-Agnes-Lovecka-1-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/duhovyrok.sk\/qys\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2021\/01\/clanok-6-Agnes-Lovecka-1-300x300.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 960px) 100vw, 960px\" \/><figcaption>Foto: s\u00fakromn\u00fd arch\u00edv<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Ako hodnot\u00edte vyjadrenie mnoh\u00fdch politikov, \u017ee najsk\u00f4r treba vyrie\u0161i\u0165 \u201ed\u00f4le\u017eitej\u0161ie\u201c probl\u00e9my ne\u017e pr\u00e1va homosexu\u00e1lov?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Politika ma bav\u00ed, sledujem ju, pravidelne vol\u00edm, ale m\u00e1rne \u010dak\u00e1m na niekoho, kto sa nebude b\u00e1\u0165 postavi\u0165 sa za vlastn\u00e9 princ\u00edpy aj proti preferenci\u00e1m. Ver\u00edm, \u017ee princ\u00edpy id\u00fa prierezovo men\u0161\u00edmi aj v\u00e4\u010d\u0161\u00edmi probl\u00e9mami a&nbsp;principi\u00e1lni \u013eudia by sa nemali b\u00e1\u0165 hovori\u0165 nahlas. Je \u010das prida\u0165 volume, ke\u010f\u017ee t\u00ed, ktor\u00ed n\u00e1s st\u00e1le nie\u010d\u00edm stra\u0161ia, kri\u010dia na pln\u00e9 \u00fasta. Pani prezidentka uk\u00e1zala, \u017ee st\u00e1\u0165 pevne vo svojich ide\u00e1loch je najsilnej\u0161ia zbra\u0148.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Na jar sa v&nbsp;Bratislave konal protest proti ministerke kult\u00fary \u013dubici La\u0161\u0161\u00e1kovej. Ako hodnot\u00edte jej rozhodnutia z&nbsp;poh\u013eadu hudobn\u00ed\u010dky a&nbsp;z&nbsp;poh\u013eadu pr\u00edslu\u0161n\u00ed\u010dky LGBTI komunity?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Umenie je tu pre v\u0161etk\u00fdch, tomu pani La\u0161\u0161\u00e1kov\u00e1 nedok\u00e1\u017ee zabr\u00e1ni\u0165, toho sa neboj\u00edm. Ale d\u00fafam, \u017ee v&nbsp;najbli\u017e\u0161\u00edch vo\u013eb\u00e1ch oto\u010d\u00edme kormidlom a&nbsp;aj na ministerstvo kult\u00fary sa dostane niekto, kto bude vidie\u0165 svoju \u00falohu v&nbsp;nap\u013a\u0148an\u00ed potrieb na\u0161ej spolo\u010dnosti takej, ak\u00e1 je, a nie v&nbsp;jej d\u00e9monizovan\u00ed a pretv\u00e1ran\u00ed na vlastn\u00fd obraz. To by som pova\u017eovala za kult\u00farne.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Agnes Loveck\u00fa poznaj\u00fa \u013eudia najm\u00e4 ako hudobn\u00ed\u010dku skupiny \u017div\u00e9 kvety. 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