{"id":2063,"date":"2019-05-05T10:32:00","date_gmt":"2019-05-05T08:32:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/qys.sk\/?p=2063"},"modified":"2021-03-18T09:08:38","modified_gmt":"2021-03-18T08:08:38","slug":"fotografka-dorota-holubova-prekvapuje-ma-ze-ani-v-21-storoci-nemaju-vsetci-rovnake-podmienky","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/duhovyrok.sk\/qys\/fotografka-dorota-holubova-prekvapuje-ma-ze-ani-v-21-storoci-nemaju-vsetci-rovnake-podmienky\/","title":{"rendered":"Fotografka Dorota Holubov\u00e1: Prekvapuje ma, \u017ee ani v 21. storo\u010d\u00ed nemaj\u00fa v\u0161etci rovnak\u00e9 podmienky"},"content":{"rendered":"\n

Autor textu: Radovan Jankovi\u010d \/ Foto: Dorota Holubov\u00e1<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Arch\u00edvny text sme prv\u00fd raz publikovali v \u010d\u00edsle Jar 2019.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

Tvrd\u00ed, \u017ee prostredn\u00edctvom fotografi\u00ed chce upozorni\u0165 na probl\u00e9my v spolo\u010dnosti. Aj preto Dorota Holubov\u00e1 nafotila portr\u00e9ty trans \u013eud\u00ed. Svoj aktivistick\u00fd projekt, ako ho sama vol\u00e1, nazvala Sami sebou a v roku 2017 s n\u00edm uspela v s\u00fa\u0165a\u017ei Slovak Press Photo. Do konca apr\u00edla svoju tvorbu vystavovala v Tepl\u00e1re\u0148 Caf\u00e9.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

 Ako ste sa v\u00f4bec dostali k my\u0161lienke robi\u0165 portr\u00e9ty trans \u013eud\u00ed?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Cez verejn\u00fa prezent\u00e1ciu na Univerzite Komensk\u00e9ho, kde som sa dostala \u00faplnou n\u00e1hodou s moj\u00edm dobr\u00fdm kamar\u00e1tom gejom. Prezentovala na nej Romina z Transf\u00fazie a \u0161okovalo ma najm\u00e4 to, \u017ee sa u n\u00e1s dej\u00fa ileg\u00e1lne kastr\u00e1cie transrodov\u00fdch \u013eud\u00ed. Ak si chc\u00fa zmeni\u0165 meno v ob\u010dianskom preukaze, musia za\u017ei\u0165 nie\u010do tak\u00e9 nehum\u00e1nne a absol\u00fatne proti \u013eudsk\u00fdch pr\u00e1vam. Po prezent\u00e1cii som \u0161la za Rominou a vyp\u00fdtala si na \u0148u kontakt a potom sme sa stretli a vymysleli fotografick\u00fd projekt Sami sebou. Nesk\u00f4r sa pridala novin\u00e1rka Frederika H\u00e1zeov\u00e1, ktor\u00e1 spracovala textov\u00fa \u010das\u0165 projektu a spravila s nimi rozhovory.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Existuje nie\u010do nov\u00e9 alebo prekvapuj\u00face, \u010do ste sa dozvedeli, ke\u010f ste pracovali s transrodov\u00fdmi \u013eu\u010fmi?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Pre m\u0148a t\u00e9ma transrodovosti bola nov\u00e1, dovtedy som osobne nepoznala \u017eiadneho trans mu\u017ea alebo trans \u017eenu a vedela som iba ve\u013emi m\u00e1lo. Pre m\u0148a je prekvapuj\u00face to, \u017ee \u017eijeme v 21. storo\u010d\u00ed a nem\u00e1me pre v\u0161etk\u00fdch rovnak\u00e9 podmienky. Nar\u00e1\u017eam pr\u00e1ve na zdravotn\u00fa starostlivos\u0165 a na to, \u017ee lek\u00e1ri nie s\u00fa ochotn\u00ed vzdel\u00e1va\u0165 sa aj v tejto oblasti a dok\u00e1\u017eu odmietnu\u0165 t\u00fdchto \u013eud\u00ed. To je potom diskrimin\u00e1cia. Je pre m\u0148a nepochopite\u013en\u00e9, pre\u010do nech\u00e1vaj\u00fa \u017ei\u0165 trans \u013eud\u00ed tak dlho v depresi\u00e1ch, ve\u010f ke\u010f sa niekto rozhodne, \u017ee chce podst\u00fapi\u0165 tranz\u00edciu, netreba to overova\u0165 dva roky a sk\u00fa\u0161a\u0165, \u010di pod\u013ea nich dostato\u010dne sp\u013a\u0148a atrib\u00faty mu\u017eskosti alebo \u017eenskosti. Inak som sa dozvedela, \u017ee trans\u013eudia s\u00fa \u00faplne rovnak\u00ed ako my, beriem ich \u00faplne prirodzene ako v\u0161etk\u00fdch ostatn\u00fdch, nech s\u00fa \u0161\u0165astn\u00ed s takou rodovou identitou, ak\u00fa chc\u00fa ma\u0165. Ke\u010f sme za\u010dali robi\u0165 pred foteniami tak\u00e9 mal\u00e9 komunitn\u00e9 stretnutia, prekvapilo ma, \u017ee v\u017edy pri\u0161li aj so svojimi partnermi a partnerkami, proste zamilovan\u00ed a\u017e po u\u0161i. Dokonca pri\u0161la jedna \u017eena, ktor\u00e1 ke\u010f ozn\u00e1mila svojmu partnerovi, \u017ee je mu\u017e, tak jej povedal, \u017ee ju miluje ako osobu a zostane s \u0148ou. Tomu sa pod\u013ea m\u0148a hovor\u00ed l\u00e1ska. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Ako reaguje verejnos\u0165 na v\u00fdstavu Sami sebou? Mysl\u00edm t\u00fdm predov\u0161etk\u00fdm \u013eud\u00ed mimo LGBTI komunity.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Mysl\u00edm si, \u017ee t\u00e9ma sa kone\u010dne postupne otv\u00e1ra aj verejnosti a bola som rada, \u017ee na vernis\u00e1\u017e v Liptovskom Mikul\u00e1\u0161i pri\u0161li \u013eudia, ktor\u00ed sa zauj\u00edmali. Zorganizovali sme aj diskusiu, na ktor\u00fa pri\u0161li rodiny s de\u0165mi a zauj\u00edmali sa.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Dorota Holubov\u00e1 \/ autoportr\u00e9t<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

Va\u0161a s\u00e9ria fotografi\u00ed bola ocenen\u00e1 pred dvoma rokmi v s\u00fa\u0165a\u017ei Slovak Press Photo. Hovorili ste, \u017ee hlavn\u00fdm cie\u013eom bolo roz\u0161\u00edri\u0165 povedomie \u0161irokej verejnosti a odstr\u00e1ni\u0165 predsudky o trans \u013eu\u010foch. Podarilo sa to? <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Neviem poveda\u0165, \u010di sa to podarilo, na to ubehol asi ve\u013emi kr\u00e1tky \u010das a je to e\u0161te beh na dlh\u00e9 trate, aby sa povedomie roz\u0161\u00edrilo u \u0161irokej verejnosti. Ale pevne ver\u00edm, \u017ee ke\u010f si na v\u00fdstave niekto pre\u010d\u00edtal pr\u00edbehy z projektu Sami sebou, tak mo\u017eno sa ho t\u00e9ma nejak\u00fdm sp\u00f4sobom dotkla a zmenil n\u00e1zor na transrodovos\u0165.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Z \u010doho pod\u013ea v\u00e1s plyn\u00fa predsudky vo\u010di LGBTI komunite? M\u00f4\u017ee to by\u0165 strach z nezn\u00e1meho, kres\u0165ansko-konzervat\u00edvny r\u00e1z Slovenska alebo nie\u010do \u00faplne in\u00e9?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Mysl\u00edm, \u017ee to bude t\u00fdm, \u017ee \u013eudia si radi vytv\u00e1raj\u00fa \u0161katu\u013eky, do ktor\u00fdch zara\u010fuj\u00fa seba a svoje okolie. Ak nie\u010do vybo\u010duje a nezapad\u00e1 pod\u013ea ich nau\u010den\u00fdch predst\u00e1v, tak nie s\u00fa dostato\u010dne tolerantn\u00ed a otvoren\u00ed akceptova\u0165, \u017ee existuje aj nie\u010do odli\u0161n\u00e9. Niektor\u00fdm nab\u00fara ich vlastn\u00e9 predstavy o \u017eivote transrodovos\u0165, \u010di ak by za\u010dali tolerova\u0165 a vn\u00edma\u0165, \u017ee existuje aj inakos\u0165. Pr\u00e1ve in\u00e1 rodov\u00e1 identita je pod\u013ea m\u0148a v\u00fdnimo\u010dn\u00e1. T\u00edto \u013eudia s\u00fa origin\u00e1lni vo svojej podstate. Nemus\u00edme by\u0165 v\u0161etci rovnak\u00ed a spr\u00e1va\u0165 sa pod\u013ea noriem len preto, aby sme sa zap\u00e1\u010dili alebo zav\u010fa\u010dili spolo\u010dnosti.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Okrem trans \u013eud\u00ed ste fotili aj t\u00fdran\u00e9 \u017eeny a tie, ktor\u00e9 im pom\u00e1haj\u00fa. Vid\u00edte medzi t\u00fdmito dvomi skupinami nejak\u00e9 paralely? <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Paralelu vid\u00edm v tom, \u017ee obe t\u00e9my, ktor\u00e9 som si vybrala, s\u00fa aktivistick\u00e9. Nejde teda iba o obraz, ale d\u00f4le\u017eitej\u0161\u00ed je odkaz a t\u00e9ma. Fotografia je druhorad\u00e1, hoci prioritne v\u00e1s m\u00e1 zauja\u0165, aby ste si n\u00e1sledne pre\u010d\u00edtali text, dozvedeli sa o t\u00e9me a odstr\u00e1nili predsudky a stereotypy. Pr\u00e1ve fotografia d\u00e1va pr\u00edle\u017eitos\u0165 na to, aby v\u00e1s up\u00fatala, a nesmierne si v\u00e1\u017eim, \u017ee m\u00f4\u017eem by\u0165 fotografka a upozor\u0148ova\u0165 na t\u00e9my, ak\u00fdmi s\u00fa n\u00e1silie p\u00e1chan\u00e9 na \u017een\u00e1ch a transrodovos\u0165. Druh\u00e1 paralela je v tom, \u017ee na to, aby som mohla tieto t\u00e9my fotografova\u0165, mus\u00edm z\u00edska\u0165 d\u00f4veru \u013eud\u00ed, \u010do nejde na po\u010dkanie, ale to ma zase u\u010d\u00ed by\u0165 trpezlivej\u0161ou.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Neovplyv\u0148uje to aj v\u00e1\u0161 ka\u017edodenn\u00fd \u017eivot a s\u00fakromie, ke\u010f sa dlho venujete citliv\u00fdm, tabuizovan\u00fdm a silne emo\u010dn\u00fdm t\u00e9mam? <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Hoci sa ako fotografka sna\u017e\u00edm dr\u017ea\u0165 emo\u010dn\u00fd odstup, samozrejme, empatia u m\u0148a zohr\u00e1va rolu a neviem iba tak zabuchn\u00fa\u0165 dvere a vypusti\u0165 \u013eud\u00ed, ktor\u00fdch fot\u00edm, z hlavy. Av\u0161ak tieto t\u00e9my si vyber\u00e1m z\u00e1merne, lebo chcem upozor\u0148ova\u0165 prostredn\u00edctvom fotografie na probl\u00e9my, beriem to aj ako ur\u010dit\u00fa zodpovednos\u0165. Ak m\u00e1m slobodu pracova\u0165, na \u010dom chcem, tak idem za t\u00e9mami, ktor\u00e9 maj\u00fa pod\u013ea m\u0148a zmysel, preto\u017ee c\u00edtim potrebu o nich hovori\u0165. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Ako dlho trv\u00e1 nafoti\u0165 cel\u00fa s\u00e9riu z\u00e1berov tak, aby ste boli s nimi spokojn\u00e1, a pripravi\u0165 z nich zmyslupln\u00fa v\u00fdstavu?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Nikdy nie som \u00faplne spokojn\u00e1, v\u017edy je \u010do vylep\u0161ova\u0165 a dofocova\u0165. Ale potom pr\u00edde term\u00edn v\u00fdstavy a u\u017e nezost\u00e1va \u010das. Aj t\u00fato s\u00e9riu neberiem ako uzatvoren\u00fa a st\u00e1le na nej pracujem. U\u017e nefot\u00edm \u0161tylizovan\u00e9 portr\u00e9ty transrodov\u00fdch \u013eud\u00ed, ale ka\u017edodenn\u00fd \u017eivot, ale to je na nieko\u013ekoro\u010dn\u00fd projekt.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Kedy sa m\u00f4\u017eeme te\u0161i\u0165 na nov\u00fd projekt?  <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

M\u00e1m rozroben\u00e9 niektor\u00e9 s\u00e9rie, av\u0161ak teraz si nech\u00e1vam odle\u017ea\u0165 tie projekty, ktor\u00e9 m\u00e1m nafoten\u00e9, a moment\u00e1lne budem vystavova\u0165 tie dokon\u010den\u00e9. Pevne ver\u00edm, \u017ee nov\u00fd projekt a nov\u00e1 t\u00e9ma si ma op\u00e4\u0165 vyber\u00fa \u00faplnou n\u00e1hodou, tak ako to \u0161lo doteraz, ve\u013emi prirodzene. Av\u0161ak ur\u010dite chcem zosta\u0165 pri t\u00e9me \u017eien a LGBTI komunity a dokumentova\u0165 ich dlhodobo.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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