{"id":1385,"date":"2019-12-18T19:41:10","date_gmt":"2019-12-18T18:41:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/qys.sk\/?p=1385"},"modified":"2021-03-18T08:55:11","modified_gmt":"2021-03-18T07:55:11","slug":"agnes-lovecka-keby-som-mala-odtialto-pre-svoju-orientaciu-utiect-inde-by-som-hladala-stastie-asi-len-velmi-tazko","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/duhovyrok.sk\/qys\/agnes-lovecka-keby-som-mala-odtialto-pre-svoju-orientaciu-utiect-inde-by-som-hladala-stastie-asi-len-velmi-tazko\/","title":{"rendered":"Agnes Loveck\u00e1: Keby som mala odtia\u013eto pre svoju orient\u00e1ciu utiec\u0165, inde by som  h\u013eadala \u0161\u0165astie asi len ve\u013emi \u0165a\u017eko"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>Agnes Loveck\u00fa poznaj\u00fa \u013eudia najm\u00e4 ako hudobn\u00ed\u010dku skupiny \u017div\u00e9 kvety. No okrem toho<\/em><br \/>\n<em>je aj vin\u00e1rka, partnerka a\u00a0v\u00a0neposlednom rade matka. Cestu za rodi\u010dovstvom bli\u017e\u0161ie op\u00edsala<\/em><br \/>\n<em>po\u010das PRIDE t\u00fd\u017ed\u0148a v diskusii Dve mamy a\u00a0dvaja otcovia a\u00a0teraz v rozhovore\u00a0pre magaz\u00edn<\/em><br \/>\n<em>QYS.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>\u017dijete s\u00a0partnerkou, s\u00a0ktorou vychov\u00e1vate dve deti. Ak\u00e1 bola va\u0161a cesta za<\/strong><br \/>\n<strong>rodi\u010dovstvom? Ko\u013eko trval cel\u00fd proces h\u013eadania mo\u017enost\u00ed a\u00a0vybavovania?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>M\u00e1m \u0161\u0165astie a so svojou partnerkou sme sa zhodli v tom, \u017ee chceme ma\u0165 deti, \u017ee spolu<br \/>\nchceme zalo\u017ei\u0165 rodinu. Ve\u013ea na\u0161ich kamar\u00e1tok z\u00a0homosexu\u00e1lnej komunity deti nechc\u00fa<br \/>\nz\u00a0r\u00f4znych d\u00f4vodov. Mnoh\u00e9 sa boja privies\u0165 deti do na\u0161ej spolo\u010dnosti z\u00a0obavy, \u017ee bud\u00fa<br \/>\nstigmatizovane t\u00fdm, v\u00a0akej rodine \u017eij\u00fa. Vlastne tej obave aj rozumiem, ale s\u00a0partnerkou<br \/>\nver\u00edme, \u017ee treba kona\u0165 pod\u013ea vlastn\u00e9ho presved\u010denia, a\u00a0tak sme od za\u010diatku rozm\u00fd\u0161\u013eali, ako<br \/>\nby sa to dalo zrealizova\u0165. Dlho sme zva\u017eovali, ak\u00fdm sp\u00f4sobom sa do toho procesu pusti\u0165, t\u00e1<br \/>\nment\u00e1lna pr\u00edprava bola nekone\u010dn\u00e1. Ve\u013ea sme \u010d\u00edtali, rozpr\u00e1vali sa a\u00a0radili s\u00a0\u013eu\u010fmi, ktor\u00ed nie\u010do<br \/>\npodobn\u00e9 podst\u00fapili, aj ke\u010f n\u00e1js\u0165 tak\u00fdch \u013eud\u00ed bolo zo za\u010diatku priam nemo\u017en\u00e9.<br \/>\nNa\u0161ou prioritou bolo rie\u0161i\u0165 to leg\u00e1lnou cestou. P\u00f4vodne sme mysleli, \u017ee na kliniku<br \/>\nasistovanej reprodukcie budeme lieta\u0165 do D\u00e1nska, ale v\u00a0roku 2015 sa mo\u017enosti otvorili aj<br \/>\nv\u00a0susednom Rak\u00fasku, a\u00a0tak sme nakoniec cel\u00fd proces absolvovali na klinike vo Viedni.<br \/>\nMuseli sme nav\u0161t\u00edvi\u0165 rak\u00faskeho not\u00e1ra a\u00a0pred rak\u00faskym z\u00e1konom sme dnes rovnocenn\u00e9<br \/>\nmamy obom na\u0161im synom. Ka\u017ed\u00e1 sme porodila jedn\u00e9ho z nich. Rozhodli sme sa pre jedn\u00e9ho<br \/>\nanonymn\u00e9ho darcu, ktor\u00e9ho bud\u00fa m\u00f4c\u0165 na\u0161e deti v\u00a0dospelosti kontaktova\u0165. Op\u00edsa\u0165 cel\u00fa na\u0161u<br \/>\ncestu by bolo nadlho, ale ak to niekoho naozaj zauj\u00edma, \u013eahko si ma vyh\u013ead\u00e1 a\u00a0rada porad\u00edm.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Na Slovensku, ako vieme, nie s\u00fa uz\u00e1konen\u00e9 registrovan\u00e9 partnerstv\u00e1 a\u00a0rodi\u010dia<\/strong><br \/>\n<strong>rovnak\u00e9ho pohlavie nie s\u00fa pr\u00e1vne uznan\u00ed. V\u00a0ktor\u00fdch konkr\u00e9tnych situ\u00e1ci\u00e1ch v\u00e1m to<\/strong><br \/>\n<strong>sp\u00f4sobuje probl\u00e9my a obmedzenia?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Mysl\u00edm, \u017ee skuto\u010dn\u00e9 existen\u010dn\u00e9 probl\u00e9my hrozia, ke\u010f sa jednej z\u00a0partneriek alebo<br \/>\njedn\u00e9mu z partnerov stane nejak\u00e9 ne\u0161\u0165astie. Vtedy nastupuj\u00fa na sc\u00e9nu \u00farady a\u00a0slovensk\u00e9<br \/>\nz\u00e1kony, ktor\u00e9 s\u00fa k\u00a0rodin\u00e1m, ako sme my, extr\u00e9mne krut\u00e9. V skuto\u010dnosti sme pre ne<br \/>\nneexistuj\u00facou rodinou, a\u00a0to aj napriek tomu, \u017ee na Slovensku n\u00e1s \u017eije pomerne ve\u013ea.<br \/>\nOproti tomu s\u00fa na\u0161e probl\u00e9my z\u00a0be\u017en\u00e9ho \u017eivota zatia\u013e zanedbate\u013en\u00e9. V\u00a0ka\u017edodennom<br \/>\n\u017eivote je to sk\u00f4r o\u00a0osobnom vz\u0165ahu s\u00a0u\u010dite\u013ekou, doktorkou, susedmi a\u00a0tam sme sa doteraz s<br \/>\nnen\u00e1vis\u0165ou nikdy nestretli, sk\u00f4r naopak. Je to v\u0161ak o\u00a0konkr\u00e9tnych \u013eu\u010foch a\u00a0o\u00a0tom, na koho<br \/>\nnatraf\u00edte.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ktor\u00e9 pr\u00e1vne \u00fapravy by v\u00e1m na Slovensku najviac zjednodu\u0161ili \u017eivot?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Registrovan\u00e9 partnerstvo a\u00a0adopcie. To prv\u00e9 pre vz\u0165ah m\u0148a a\u00a0mojej partnerky a\u00a0to druh\u00e9<br \/>\npre na\u0161e deti. Odhliadnuc od\u00a0fundamentalistick\u00fdch v\u00e1\u0161n\u00ed, vyrie\u0161ilo by to konkr\u00e9tne situ\u00e1cie,<br \/>\ns\u00a0ktor\u00fdmi sa denne stret\u00e1vame, ale tie\u017e hrozby, ktor\u00e9 nad na\u0161ou rodinou visia ako gilot\u00edna.<br \/>\nN\u00e1zor \u013eud\u00ed na adopcie det\u00ed homosexu\u00e1lnymi p\u00e1rmi je \u010dasto posunut\u00fd do extr\u00e9mnej<br \/>\npolohy ak\u00e9hosi prerozde\u013eovania det\u00ed medzi homosexu\u00e1lov. To je nen\u00e1vistn\u00fd blud, ktor\u00fd sa tu<br \/>\n\u00faspe\u0161ne \u0161\u00edri len v\u010faka tomu, \u017ee neexistuje re\u00e1lna diskusia. Pravda je, \u017ee adopcie by vyrie\u0161ili<br \/>\nhlavne \u017eivotn\u00fa situ\u00e1ciu det\u00ed a rod\u00edn, ako sme my. Na\u0161e deti by nadobudli rovnak\u00e9 pr\u00e1va, ako<br \/>\nv\u0161etky ostatn\u00e9 deti. Napr\u00edklad by im nehrozil detsk\u00fd domov v\u00a0pr\u00edpade \u00famrtia biologick\u00e9ho<br \/>\nrodi\u010da, mali by mo\u017enos\u0165 dedi\u0165 po oboch rodi\u010doch a\u00a0mnoho \u010fal\u0161\u00edch zdanlivo samozrejm\u00fdch<br \/>\nvec\u00ed.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Zva\u017eovali ste niekedy odchod do inej krajiny s\u00a0priaznivej\u0161ou legislat\u00edvou?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u017dijeme na farme,\u00a0hospod\u00e1rime na p\u00f4de a\u00a0na\u0161u pr\u00e1cu milujeme. Neviem si svoj \u017eivot<br \/>\nmoment\u00e1lne predstavi\u0165 inde. Nevylu\u010dujem tak\u00fa situ\u00e1ciu, ale keby som odtia\u013eto mala uteka\u0165<br \/>\npre svoju orient\u00e1ciu, u\u017e by som asi ve\u013emi \u0165a\u017eko h\u013eadala \u0161\u0165astie inde.<\/p>\n<p><strong>B\u00fdvali ste v\u00a0Bratislave, o\u00a0rodinn\u00fd podnik Slobodn\u00e9 vin\u00e1rstvo sa star\u00e1te<\/strong><br \/>\n<strong>v\u00a0Zemianskych Sadoch. Ak\u00e9 rozdiely ste postrehli vo vn\u00edman\u00ed LGBTI komunity<\/strong><br \/>\n<strong>v\u00a0hlavnom meste a\u00a0na vidieku?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u017dila som v\u00a0Bratislave, ale aj v\u00a0New Yorku a\u00a0viem ak\u00e9 oslobodzuj\u00face je strati\u0165 sa v\u00a0dave.<br \/>\nNa dedine je to inak. Nikto nerie\u0161i \u017eiadnu komunitu, len konkr\u00e9tnych \u013eud\u00ed. A\u00a0konkr\u00e9tni \u013eudia<br \/>\nsa tak niekedy st\u00e1vaj\u00fa z\u00e1stupcami celej komunity. To za\u017e\u00edvam, tie sk\u00famav\u00e9 poh\u013eady. \u010clovek<br \/>\nna to nem\u00e1 v\u017edy n\u00e1ladu, ale\u00a0beriem to tak, \u017ee lep\u0161ia zvedavos\u0165 ako nen\u00e1vis\u0165. Som dnes<br \/>\nhlboko presved\u010den\u00e1, \u017ee jedin\u00e9, \u010do na\u0161ej spolo\u010dnosti pom\u00f4\u017ee, je otvoren\u00fd \u017eivot LGBTI \u013eud\u00ed,<br \/>\nktor\u00ed nim nastavia zrkadlo v\u0161etk\u00fdm tm\u00e1rom.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ako hodnot\u00edte vyjadrenie mnoh\u00fdch politikov, \u017ee najsk\u00f4r treba vyrie\u0161i\u0165<\/strong><br \/>\n<strong>\u201ed\u00f4le\u017eitej\u0161ie\u201c probl\u00e9my ne\u017e pr\u00e1va homosexu\u00e1lov?<\/strong><br \/>\nPolitika ma bav\u00ed, sledujem ju, pravidelne vol\u00edm, ale m\u00e1rne \u010dak\u00e1m na niekoho, kto sa<br \/>\nnebude b\u00e1\u0165 postavi\u0165 sa za vlastn\u00e9 princ\u00edpy aj proti preferenci\u00e1m. Ver\u00edm, \u017ee princ\u00edpy id\u00fa<br \/>\nprierezovo men\u0161\u00edmi aj v\u00e4\u010d\u0161\u00edmi probl\u00e9mami a\u00a0principi\u00e1lni \u013eudia by sa nemali b\u00e1\u0165 hovori\u0165<br \/>\nnahlas. Je \u010das prida\u0165 volume, ke\u010f\u017ee t\u00ed, ktor\u00ed n\u00e1s st\u00e1le nie\u010d\u00edm stra\u0161ia, kri\u010dia na pln\u00e9 \u00fasta. Pani<br \/>\nprezidentka uk\u00e1zala, \u017ee st\u00e1\u0165 pevne vo svojich ide\u00e1loch je najsilnej\u0161ia zbra\u0148.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Na jar sa v\u00a0Bratislave konal protest proti ministerke kult\u00fary \u013dubici La\u0161\u0161\u00e1kovej.<\/strong><strong>Ako hodnot\u00edte jej rozhodnutia z\u00a0poh\u013eadu hudobn\u00ed\u010dky a\u00a0z\u00a0poh\u013eadu pr\u00edslu\u0161n\u00ed\u010dky LGBTI<\/strong><br \/>\n<strong>komunity?<\/strong><br \/>\nUmenie je tu pre v\u0161etk\u00fdch, tomu pani La\u0161\u0161\u00e1kov\u00e1 nedok\u00e1\u017ee zabr\u00e1ni\u0165, toho sa neboj\u00edm.<br \/>\nAle d\u00fafam, \u017ee v\u00a0najbli\u017e\u0161\u00edch vo\u013eb\u00e1ch oto\u010d\u00edme kormidlom a\u00a0aj na ministerstvo kult\u00fary sa<br \/>\ndostane niekto, kto bude vidie\u0165 svoju \u00falohu v\u00a0nap\u013a\u0148an\u00ed potrieb na\u0161ej spolo\u010dnosti takej, ak\u00e1 je,<br \/>\na nie v\u00a0jej d\u00e9monizovan\u00ed a pretv\u00e1ran\u00ed na vlastn\u00fd obraz. To by som pova\u017eovala za kult\u00farne.<\/p>\n<p>http:\/\/www.zivekvety.sk\/<\/p>\n<p>Fotografia : osobn\u00fd arch\u00edv Agnes Loveckej<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Agnes Loveck\u00fa poznaj\u00fa \u013eudia najm\u00e4 ako hudobn\u00ed\u010dku skupiny \u017div\u00e9 kvety. No okrem toho je aj vin\u00e1rka, partnerka a\u00a0v\u00a0neposlednom rade matka. Cestu za rodi\u010dovstvom bli\u017e\u0161ie op\u00edsala po\u010das PRIDE t\u00fd\u017ed\u0148a v diskusii Dve mamy a\u00a0dvaja otcovia a\u00a0teraz v rozhovore\u00a0pre magaz\u00edn QYS. \u017dijete s\u00a0partnerkou, s\u00a0ktorou vychov\u00e1vate dve deti. Ak\u00e1 bola va\u0161a cesta za rodi\u010dovstvom? Ko\u013eko trval cel\u00fd proces <a href=\"https:\/\/duhovyrok.sk\/qys\/agnes-lovecka-keby-som-mala-odtialto-pre-svoju-orientaciu-utiect-inde-by-som-hladala-stastie-asi-len-velmi-tazko\/\" class=\"more-link\">&#8230;<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":6,"featured_media":1387,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[6,259,13],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1385","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-pribehy-lgbti-ludi","category-rozhovory","category-viditelnost"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/duhovyrok.sk\/qys\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1385","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/duhovyrok.sk\/qys\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/duhovyrok.sk\/qys\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/duhovyrok.sk\/qys\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/6"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/duhovyrok.sk\/qys\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1385"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/duhovyrok.sk\/qys\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1385\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2549,"href":"https:\/\/duhovyrok.sk\/qys\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1385\/revisions\/2549"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/duhovyrok.sk\/qys\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/1387"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/duhovyrok.sk\/qys\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1385"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/duhovyrok.sk\/qys\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1385"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/duhovyrok.sk\/qys\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1385"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}